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Failing to realize that the seventh trumpet is concurrent with the seventh seal results in confusion as to when the rapture occurs.

 

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The great multitude appearing in heaven is closely related to the seventh seal being opened.  The great multitude appear in heaven when the rapture takes place.

For those who believe that the trumpets follow sequentially after the seals, the rapture is thought to occur pre-tribulation when the sixth or seventh seal is opened (the trumpets being God’s wrath).  These brothers and sisters then have to explain away the verses that link the rapture to the seventh trumpet.  The first six seals certainly sound like tribulation too!

For those who believe in sequential seals and trumpets, and believe the rapture is at the last trumpet (post tribulation), they have to explain away the fact that the great multitude appearing in heaven is closely linked to the sixth and seventh seals.

If the Seventh trumpet is concurrent with the seventh seal, then there is no discrepancy.  The Church is raptured in the twinkling of an eye as soon as the seventh trumpet begins to sound (Rev 10:7).  The rapture is post-tribulation (after 1260 days) but pre-wrath (before the bowls of God’s wrath are poured out during the seventh trumpet).

The Church will be spared God’s wrath (1Thes 5:9) which is poured out when the seventh trumpet sounds.  (Rev 11:18)

The Church will be raptured at the last trumpet as soon as it sounds (Rev 10:7 & 1Cor 15:51-52).

Jerusalem will be trampled for 42 months (Revelations 11:2) while the two prophets prophesy for 1260 days (Rev 11:3).

Israel will be protected for 1260 days; times time and time and a half.  (Rev 12:6,14) while the dragon pursues her offspring (the Church). (Rev 12:17)

The beast is given authority for 42 months to make war against God’s holy people and conquer them.  (Rev 13:5-7)

Then the seventh trumpet sounds (Rev 11:15) and the rapture and the first resurrection take place. (Rev 10:7 & 1Cor 15:51-52)

 

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

 

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The seven Bowls are part of the Last Trumpet

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If the Seventh Seal is concurrent with the Seventh Trumpet then the rapture coincides with both.

What happens when the seventh seal is opened?

What happens when the seventh seal is opened?

The great multitude appear in heaven when the seventh seal is opened. This corresponds to the rapture and the first resurrection.

The rapture and the first resurrection are also said to take place at the Last Trumpet.

This can easily be reconciled if the Seventh Seal and the Seventh trumpet are coincident.

The Seventh Trumpet also brings with it the Seven Bowls of God’s wrath or what is known as the third woe.

The Wrath of the Lamb follows the opening of the 6th seal.  This could refer to the Seven of Trumpets but could also refer to just the last trumpet with the seven bowls of God’s wrath.

If it is referring to just the Last trumpet, then the first six trumpets would precede the seventh seal and could possibly align with the first six seals.

If the seals and the trumpets are synchronized, S1-T1, S2-T2, S3-T3, S4-T4, S5-T5, S6-T6, S7-T7, this would mean that an angel blows a trumpet every time Christ opens a seal.  It would also mean that when Christ opens the last seal, the Children of God are revealed and the rapture and the first resurrection take place (ie Christ returns to redeem the Church).  It also means that for those of us who are watching, we can have a rough idea about where Jesus is up to.

 

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

If the seventh seal coincides with the seventh trumpet, maybe the the other seals coincide with their respective trumpets

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The seven Bowls are part of the Last Trumpet

The first resurrection and the rapture of the Church at the second coming of Christ occur at the Last Trumpet.  A great multitude will appear in heaven when this happens.

The great multitude appear in heaven after the sixth seal, immediately before the seventh seal is mentioned.

The seventh seal is mentioned almost in passing immediately after the great multitude appears in heaven.   When the seventh seal is opened, there is rest in heaven for “half an hour”.   Not much else is said about the seventh seal and then Revelation moves on to describe the angels with the seven trumpets.

It is quite likely that the great multitude appearing in heaven is linked to the seventh seal being opened.

The second coming of Christ, therefore, coincides with the sounding of seventh trumpet, the opening of the seventh seal as well as the rapture of the Church and the first resurrection.

If the seventh trumpet coincides with the opening of the seventh seal, then could the other trumpets  coincide with their respective seals?  ie the first trumpet coincides with the first seal, the second trumpet coincides with the second seal, third trumpet – third seal etc.

This would surely be very neat and glorious and would certainly “preach well“, but is it true?

Are there any Bible verses that would confirm or deny that this is true?

Certainly, the events of the first trumpet (hail fire and blood burning up a third of the Earths trees and grass) are not incompatible with the appearance of the Antichrist in the first seal. The events of the second trumpet (a mountain ablaze killing a third of the sea creatures and ships) could be associated with the second seal being opened – war. The events of the third trumpet (a third of the fresh waters of the Earth turned bitter) could be associated with the third seal – famine. The events of the fourth trumpet (a third of the sky is darkened) could be associated with the fourth seal being opened – death.  The events of the fifth trumpet (those with the mark of the beast are tormented for 5 months) could be associated with the fifth seal being opened – martyrs.  The events of the sixth trumpet (a third of mankind is killed by 200,000 mounted troops) could be associated with the events of the sixth seal being opened – signs in the sky.  And the events of the seventh trumpet (the rapture and the first resurrection) probably are associated with the the seventh seal being opened – the great multitude appearing in heaven.

While there do not appear to be any conflicts or major objections to the seals and trumpets being synchronous, other arrangements of the seals and the trumpets are possible.  (see below)

The seven bowls of God’s wrath are part of the seventh trumpet and would also coincide with the seventh seal.

If the seventh seal is coincident with the seventh trumpet (as both are linked to the second coming of Christ), then it is unlikely that the trumpets simply follow the seals.

If the seventh trumpet is coincident with the seventh seal, it is likely that the other trumpets precede the seventh seal.  The trumpets and the seals could, therefore, be synchronous.  ie when a seal is opened, a trumpet is sounded

When Christ opens the seventh seal, the seventh trumpet sounds, the Children of God are revealed, Christ returns to redeem the Church and resurrect dead Christians. There is rest in heaven for half an hour and then Christ returns with an army of believers to strike down the nations as the seven bowls of Gods wrath are poured out.

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

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  • Whenever a seal is opened, an angel announces it with a trumpet.
  • This should serve as a warning to those who know what to look for.
  • Mankind has a chance to repent even after the sixth trumpet is sounded.
  • Once the seventh trumpet is sounded, it is too late to repent, the church will be raptured and the dead believers resurrected.  God will pour out his wrath on the nations who are left behind
  • God’s wrath and the judgment on the Nations follow the sixth seal.
  • The seventh trumpet brings with it God’s wrath.
  • The seven bowls are God’s wrath and are part of the seventh trumpet.
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A more traditional view of the Seals Trumpets and Bowls

  • Here all the trumpets are coincident with the seventh seal and the bowls are coincident with the seventh trumpet.
  • Thus the the seventh seal, the seventh trumpet and the seventh bowl coincide with the end of the age.
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Another view of the seals trumpets and bowls

  • Here the trumpets are spread out but not synchronous with the seals.
  • The seventh trumpet almost coinciding with the seventh seal.
  • The bowls are spread across the last three trumpets.

In non of the above, do the trumpets and bowls follow sequentially after the seventh seal.

http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

As soon as the Seventh Trumpet sounds, the Church is removed from the Earth (Wheat and Tares). God then pours out the Seven Bowls of His Wrath upon the Nations (Pagans/Gentiles) of the Earth who will be “Left Behind”. The Seven Bowls of God’s wrath are the Third Woe and are part of the Seventh Trumpet.

The Church is Raptured in the Twinkling of an Eye at the Last Trumpet. As soon as the Seventh Trumpet sounds, the Church is removed from the Earth (Wheat and Tares). God then pours out the Seven Bowls of His Wrath upon the Nations (Pagans/Gentiles) of the Earth who will be “Left Behind”. The Seven Bowls of God’s wrath are the Third Woe and are part of the Seventh Trumpet. The Bowls are for the Nations not the Church. 144000 Jews will be Sealed and protected from His Wrath.
God wil separate the Nations into the Sheep and the Goats according to how they treated God’s People.
Zechariah Ch14 tells us that there will be some Pagans who survive Armageddon and go on into the Millennium as the Nations on Earth (Millennial Nations). The pagans that survive Armageddon must be taken from among the Sheep Nations as the Goats will go to Hell. The Pagans who survive the Battle of Armageddon will accompany the 144000 Jews into the Millennium as a reward and to fulfill God’s Old Testament Prophesies to restore Israel. During the Millennium, the Church will reign with Christ in Heaven.
When the Millennium is over, The Bride will descend from Heaven to become the New Jerusalem on the Earth. Pagans will be resurrected and judged at the Great White Throne. Those whose names are in the Lamb’s Book of Life will become the Nations in Eternity. Those whose names are not in the Lamb’s Book of Life will be thrown into the Lake of Fire which is the Second Death.

Synchronized seals and trumpets. 1st woe = 5th trumpet, 2nd woe = 6th trumpet, 3rd woe = seventh trumpet (and the seven bowls therein)

Synchronized seals and trumpets. The first woe corresponds to the fifth trumpet and the second woe corresponds to the sixth trumpet. The bowls are the third woe and occur during the seventh trumpet

The seven Bowls are part of the Last Trumpet

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The Seven Bowls are part of the Seventh Trumpet. They are the Third Woe.

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The seven bowls are the third woe. They are part of the Seventh Trumpet. When the seventh trumpet sounds, Jesus returns to rapture the Church and resurrect sleeping believers. Once the Church has been removed from the Earth, God pours out his wrath on the pagans (unbelievers among the nations)

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