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Comparing the Interlude between the Sixth and the Seventh Seal and the Interlude between the Sixth and the Seventh Trumpet

 

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In describing the events associated with the opening of the seven seals, John seems to take a break between the six and the seventh seal, the so called interlude, where he seems to describe two apparently unrelated visions.  The vision of the 144000 who were sealed from the 12 tribes of Israel (Rev 7:1-8) and a vision of a Great Multitude from every tribe and language who had been through the Great Tribulation and appear in heaven (Rev 7:9-17).

Similarly, when John is describing the events associated with the seven trumpets, he takes a break between the sixth and the seventh trumpet, another interlude, and describes two further visions that seem somewhat unrelated.  The vision of the angel and the little scroll (Rev 10:1-11) and the vision of the Gentiles trampling the Holy City for 42 months and the two witnesses prophesying for 1260 days.  (Rev 11:1-14)

Post tribulationists (who believe the rapture is post-tribulation) say that the second coming of Christ to rapture the church takes place at the beginning of the last trumpet which coincides with the seventh seal. The Wrath of God is the seven bowls which are part of the seventh trumpet.

Pretribulationists (who believe the rapture is pre-tribulation) say that the second coming of Christ to rapture the church occurs at or just before the seventh seal but the trumpets, being the wrath of God, follow the seals and are not concurrent with the seals as suggested by post tribulationists.

It is, therefore, interesting to see if there is any correlation and concordance between the events mentioned in the two interludes between the sixth and the seventh seals and the sixth and the seventh trumpets.

John was given a vision of a scroll with seven seals which nobody was worthy to open but the Lamb of God who was slain and with his blood purchased for God people from every tribe and nation people and language.  In the ensuing chapters, the Lamb begins to open the scroll which can only be the Book of Life.  Once the Book of Life is opened, the Children of God are revealed and the Lamb Christ returns to redeem his people.  It, therefore, makes sense that the rapture should take place at or just before the seventh seal is opened.

The last trumpet is also linked to the rapture of the church. (1Cor 15:51-52) It is at the seventh trumpet that the Kingdom of this World becomes the Kingdom of our Lord.  (Rev 11:15)  It is at the Last trumpet that God judges the nations and pours out his wrath. (Rev 11:18)

The Angel that appears in the interlude between the sixth and the seventh trumpets is holding a Little Scroll which has been opened. (Rev 10:2) This Little Scroll would appear to be the same scroll that the Lamb has been opening.  Thus by the time the seventh trumpet sounds, the Book of Life has been opened.

When the Book of Life is opened, the rapture and the first resurrection take place.  A Great multitude appear in heaven.  The Great Multitude appearing in heaven appears between the sixth and the seventh seals.

If the Trumpets are aligned with the seals, if they recapitulate the seals and are concurrent with the seals, then the interludes would also be aligned.  The opening of the Little Scroll would be concordant with the Great Multitude appearing in heaven.

What about the other events that take place in the interludes between the sixth and the seventh seals and the sixth and the seventh trumpets?

As already mentioned, the seventh trumpet is when the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our lord.  The Millennium is about to start.  God just has to finish pouring out his wrath on the nations as the Seventh trumpet sounds.

What can be made of the vision of the Gentiles trampling the Holy City for 42 months (Rev 11:2) and the two witnesses prophesying for 1260 days (Rev 11:3) in the interlude between the sixth and the seventh trumpet?

The duration of the great tribulation will be 1260 days or 42 months which is 3.5 years.  (Rev 12:6, Rev 12:14 & Rev 13:5-8)  The point at which this vision is given, the great tribulation is about to end.  It would, therefore, appear that the gentiles finish trampling the Holy City at the time the seventh trumpet sounds and the two witnesses also finish prophesying at this point too.

What about the 144000, when are they sealed?  The 144000 taken from the 12 tribes of Israel are no doubt the Women who is pursued by the dragon in Revelation chapter 12.  The woman is pursued by the dragon for 1260 days or times time and half a time.  The 144000 would therefore have been sealed at the beginning of the great tribulation.

The 144000 being sealed and the woman being taken care of for 1260 days, the gentiles trampling the Holy City for 42 months and the two witnesses prophesying for 1260 days, all span the duration of the great tribulation but are not mentioned until it is almost over – just before the seventh seal or the seventh trumpet (assuming they are simultaneous).

These visions are, therefore, retrospective or recapitulations given the point at which they are mentioned.

The interludes between the sixth and the seven seal and the sixth and the seventh trumpets do appear to be concordant and concurrent with one another.  The Little Scroll is opened just as the seventh seal is opened and as the seventh trumpet sounds and then the rapture takes place and a great multitude appear in heaven.   Also, the 144000 are revealed having been sealed and protected for 1260 days.  The Holy City has been trampled for 42 months and the two witnesses are about to finish 1260 days of prophesying.

Revelation paints a glorious picture with many elements that are described one at time rather than in time sequence.

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A major stumbling block for post tribulationists and recapitulationists?

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Revelation 7:1-4

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.   Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”  Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

This scripture appears after the sixth seal is opened and just before the seventh seal is mentioned and just before the Seven Trumpets sound.   It is part of the Interlude between the sixth and the seventh seal.  The other part of the Interlude being the rapture of the great multitude.

The four angels mentioned in the scripture above are considered to be the same angels as the those who hold the first four trumpets. 

Pre tribulationists argue that this is proof that the seals and the  trumpets cannot be simultaneous as stated by recapitulationists (post tribulationists), or at least the trumpets cannot precede the sixth seal.  The seals trumpets and bowls, therefore, occur sequentially.

Pre tribulationists contend that the rapture is after the sixth seal when the Great Multitude appear in heaven just before the seventh seal is opened and certainly before the seven trumpets (which are considered to be the wrath of God). 

Pre tribulationists consider the events of the first sixth seals are not part of the great tribulation.  (Given that a quarter of the Earth’s population are killed when the 4th seal is opened, this is a bit hard to accept)

Post tribulationists tend to be recapitulationists, stating that various visions in revelation recapitulate and occur simultaneously with other visions in Revelation thereby adding to their meaning.   Like pretribulationists, they place the rapture after the sixth seal immediately before the seventh seal is opened.  The rapture is also linked to the seventh trumpet which is concurrent with or simultaneous with the seventh seal.

God’s wrath is then poured out on the nations; namely the seven bowls of God’s wrath which are also part of the seventh Trumpet.

How then do post tribulationists account for this scripture which suggests that the trumpet judgements follow the seals sequentially rather than occur simulatanously with the seals.

Rev 6:12 & 14

The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 

Here we see the ‘Woman’ (Israel) flees to the wilderness where she is taken care of for 1260 days – this is the entire duration of the Great tribulation!  Could this ‘Women’ (Israel) be sealed and protected right from the beginning of the Great Tribulation, before any seals are opened or any trumpets are sounded?

This would mean that the vision of the 144000 being sealed from the 12 tribes of Israel does not occur in the same sequence that it is appears in Revelation.  It is a self contained vision that happens to be placed in the interlude between the 6th and the 7th seal.

It is simply not possible to describe the picture in Revelation and maintain sequence without becoming very disorganized. 

Revelation is like a picture and John describes the elements sequentially one at a time but not necessarily in time sequence. 

Revelation is not like a scanner or a fax machine scanning a picture from one end to the other.

Rev 11:2-3

But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.  And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 

Just as there is an interlude between the sixth and the seventh seal, there is also an interlude between the six and the seventh trumpet.

The 144000 Jews are sealed and the great multitude appear in heaven in the interlude between the 6th and the 7th seal.  The Holy city is trampled by the Gentiles for 42 months and the two witnesses prophesy for 1260 days in the interlude between the 6th and the 7th trumpet.   (An angel with a little scroll also appears in this interlude)

The rapture of the Great multitude occurs in an instant and therefore could well take place at this point in the Revelation sequence just before or when the seven seal is opened.

The ‘Women’ (Israel) is protected for 1260 days.  The  actual sealing of the 144000 is therefore likely to have occurred substantially before the time that it is mentioned in the Revelation sequence.  Indeed, it is more than likely that the 1260 days end at the point it is mentioned in the revelation sequence. 

Just as the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel are sealed and protected for the entire duration of the Great Tribulation, the Gentiles will trample the Holy City for 42 months and the two witnesses will prophesy for 1260 days.

The visions of the Gentiles trampling the Holy City for 42 months and the two witnesses prophesying for 1260 days are in the interlude between the 6th and the 7th trumpet.

When the seventh Trumpet sounds, the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our Lord.  We are at the conclusion of this age.  That is it.  There is no more 42 months to come and no more 1260 days to come.  The 42 months and the 1260 days, therefore, end with the sounding of the seventh trumpet.

As with the sealing of the  144000, the place in scripture where they are mentioned corresponds to the end of the 1260 days or 42 months over which they occur.

In other words, the Gentiles started trampling the Holy City 42 months before the seventh trumpet sounds and the two witnesses prophesied for 1260 days up until the sounding of the seventh trumpet.

Similarly, the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel were sealed and protected 1260 days before the seventh seal was opened. 

The Great Tribulation lasts 1260 days and begins with the revelation of the Antichrist when the first seal is opened.   (2Thes 2:3)

This means that the 144000 Jews are sealed at the beginning of the Great Tribulation before any seals are opened and before any trumpets are sounded.

Thus even if the seals and the trumpets are totally simultaneous, there is no conflict with Revelations 7:2-3

He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 

Therefore, these verses should not be a stumbling block to Post Tribulationists who believe in simultaneous recapitulating visions in revelation.

 

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http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

Simultaneous Seals and Trumpets

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If the seals and the trumpets are simultaneous, with an angel sounding a trumpet whenever a seal is opened, then seal one coincides with trumpet 1, seal two coincides with trumpet 2, seal three coincides with trumpet 3 and so on.

When the first seal is broken, the Antichrist is revealed.   The first trumpet sounds and then a third of the Earth’s trees and grass is burnt up.  When the second seal is broken, war is unleashed.  The second trumpet sounds and a third of the sea turns to blood and a third of the sea creatures die and a third of the ships are destroyed.  When the third seal is opened, famine is rampant.  The third trumpet sounds and a star falls from the sky turning a third of the fresh waters bitter.  When the fourth seal is opened, death abounds.  The fourth trumpet sounds and a third of the sky is darkened blocking the light of the sun and moon.  When the fifth seal is opened the martyrs cry out.  The fifth trumpet sounds and locusts come out of the abyss to torment those with the mark of the beast for 5 months. When the sixth seal is opened, signs appear in the sky and earthquakes shake the Earth.  Men try to hide from Gods impending wrath. The sixth trumpet sounds – 200 million mounted troops are released to kill one third of all mankind.  Still man does not repent!

Next, the 144000 Jews are sealed and a great multitude appear in heaven.  When the seventh seal was opened, there was silence in heaven for half an hour.  The seventh trumpet sounds as the seventh seal is opened and the mystery of God is accomplished.  The little scroll is opened,  the two witnesses finish prophesying for 1260 days and then they are raptured.   Jerusalem has been trampled for 42 months.  The time for judging the dead in Christ has come. The church is raptured and the first resurrection takes place.  God pours out the seven bowls of his wrath as he leads an army of believers to strike down the nations.  The nations are separated into the Sheep and the Goats.

Finally, the Kingdom of this world becomes the Kingdom of our Lord and his Messiah.

There are no clashes, in fact this paints a glorious picture that only God could have conceived.

It paints a picture with signs that could not be missed or mistaken for something else.

While the seventh seal and the seventh trumpet appear to be simultaneous events associated with the second coming of Christ, we cannot be so sure that the other trumpets are simultaneous with the other seals.

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Reasons for believing the Seals and Trumpets are Simultaneous

The church is raptured at the last trumpet (1Cor 15:51-52)

The last trumpet is when the Mystery of God is accomplished (Rev 10:7)

The Last Trumpet is when the Kingdom of this World becomes the Kingdom of our Lord and his Messiah (Rev 11:15)

The Last Trumpet is when it is time to judge the dead and reward the prophets and those who revere God’s name (Rev 11:18)

The Last Trumpet is when God pours his wrath out on the Nations (Rev 11:18)

The last seal is also associated with these events

God’s wrath follows the sixth seal (Rev 6:17)

God’s wrath is not poured out until after the Church has been raptured (1Thes 5:9)

The Great Multitude appear in heaven when the rapture occurs (Rev 7:9-17) just before the seventh seal is mentioned

The little scroll is presented open just before the seventh trumpet (Rev 10:1-11)

The Little scroll is the same scroll that the Lamb has been opening, one seal at a time

This scroll is almost certainly a chapter of the Book of Life which contains the names of born again believers

(There is another chapter of the book of life which is opened at the end of the Millennium when it is time to judge non-believers)

It is fitting that the rapture of the Church should occur when the seventh seal on the scroll is opened

After all, creation has been waiting in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed (Rom 8:18-24)

The rapture is mentioned in several places in Revelation; Revelation is not entirely sequential

The rapture of the church, followed by God’s judgement of the nations, is also mentioned in Revelations 14:14-16:21 and Revelation 19:1-21

The rapture of the Church is followed by God’s wrath on the Nations, both of which seem to occur at the seventh seal and the seventh trumpet

Thus there is good reason for believing that the seventh Seal and the Seventh trumpet are concurrent events in heaven.

In fact the rapture appears to occur in the twinkling of an eye at the beginning of the seventh trumpet (Rev 10:7). The rapture, if it does not precede the seventh seal being opened, would also appear to occur the instant that the seventh seal is opened (Rev 8:1) and then there is silence in heaven for half an hour.

The implication is that the other trumpets (trumpets 1 to 6) precede the seventh seal (as the seventh trumpet is concurrent with the seventh seal)

Could then the other trumpets correspond to the other seals?

Coud seal 1 be coincident with trumpet 1, seal 2 coincident with trumpet 2, seal 3 – trumpet 3 and so forth?

If this were true then when Christ opens a seal, an angel sounds a trumpet.

For those who are watching, this would serve as a warning that Christ’s return is becoming more imminent.

What would it look like if the seals and the trumpets were aligned?

Are there any events that cannot go together or would clash?

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The seven Bowls are part of the Last Trumpet

 

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http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

Failing to realize that the seventh trumpet is concurrent with the seventh seal results in confusion as to when the rapture occurs.

 

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The great multitude appearing in heaven is closely related to the seventh seal being opened.  The great multitude appear in heaven when the rapture takes place.

For those who believe that the trumpets follow sequentially after the seals, the rapture is thought to occur pre-tribulation when the sixth or seventh seal is opened (the trumpets being God’s wrath).  These brothers and sisters then have to explain away the verses that link the rapture to the seventh trumpet.  The first six seals certainly sound like tribulation too!

For those who believe in sequential seals and trumpets, and believe the rapture is at the last trumpet (post tribulation), they have to explain away the fact that the great multitude appearing in heaven is closely linked to the sixth and seventh seals.

If the Seventh trumpet is concurrent with the seventh seal, then there is no discrepancy.  The Church is raptured in the twinkling of an eye as soon as the seventh trumpet begins to sound (Rev 10:7).  The rapture is post-tribulation (after 1260 days) but pre-wrath (before the bowls of God’s wrath are poured out during the seventh trumpet).

The Church will be spared God’s wrath (1Thes 5:9) which is poured out when the seventh trumpet sounds.  (Rev 11:18)

The Church will be raptured at the last trumpet as soon as it sounds (Rev 10:7 & 1Cor 15:51-52).

Jerusalem will be trampled for 42 months (Revelations 11:2) while the two prophets prophesy for 1260 days (Rev 11:3).

Israel will be protected for 1260 days; times time and time and a half.  (Rev 12:6,14) while the dragon pursues her offspring (the Church). (Rev 12:17)

The beast is given authority for 42 months to make war against God’s holy people and conquer them.  (Rev 13:5-7)

Then the seventh trumpet sounds (Rev 11:15) and the rapture and the first resurrection take place. (Rev 10:7 & 1Cor 15:51-52)

 

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The seven Bowls are part of the Last Trumpet

A central theme in the book of Revelation is the scroll with seven seals which only the Lamb is worthy to open.

Rev 5:1-10

Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals.  And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?”  But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it.  I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.  Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.  He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.  And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people.  And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.  You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

The scroll is the Book of Life (or at least the part of the book of life that is for believers).  It has been sealed with seven seals.  It contains the names of every person that has been purchased with the Lamb’s blood.  It contains the names of people from every tribe and language and people and nation.

They will be a kingdom and priests to serve God and they will reign on the Earth (in Eternity).

Once the Scroll has been opened, the Children of God will be revealed.  For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. (Romans 8:19)

The next few chapters of Revelation describe what happens as the Lamb opens the seven seals culminating in the sealing of the 144000 from Israel and the appearance of a great multitude in heaven when the seventh seal is opened.

Seven angels with trumpets are mentioned following the seven seals but the seventh trumpet signals the end of the age and the rapture of the Church and thus coincides with the seventh seal.  If the seventh trumpet coincides with the seventh seal then maybe the other trumpets are coincident with the other seals being opened too.

In other words, when an Christ opens a seal, an angel sounds a trumpet.  For those who are watching, it is a warning that Christ’s return is imminent.

The first seal is broken when the Antichrist is revealed.   The first trumpet sounds and then a third of the Earths trees and grass is burnt up.  The second seal is broken, war is unleashed.  The second trumpet sounds and a third of the sea turns to blood and a third of the sea creatures die and a third of the ships are destroyed.  The third seal is opened and a famine is rampant.  The third trumpet sounds and a star falls from the sky turning a third of the fresh waters bitter.  The fourth seal is opened and death abounds.  The fourth trumpet sounds and a third of the sky is darkened blocking the light of the sun and moon.  A fifth seal is opened and the martyrs cry out.  The fifth trumpet sounds and locusts come out of the abyss to torment those with the mark of the beast for 5 months. The sixth seal is opened and signs appear in the sky and earthquakes shake the Earth.  Men try to hide from Gods impending wrath. The sixth trumpet sounds – 200 million mounted troops are released to kill one third of all mankind.  Still man does not repent.

Next, the 144000 Jews are sealed and a great multitude appear in heaven.  Then there is rest in heaven for half an hour as the seventh seal is opened.  The seventh trumpet sounds as the seventh seal is opened and the mystery of God is accomplished.  The little scroll is opened,  the two witnesses finish prophesying for 1260 days and then they are raptured.   Jerusalem has been trampled for 42 months.  The time for judging the dead in Christ has come. The church is raptured and the first resurrection takes place.  God pours out the seven bowls of his wrath as he leads an army of believers to strike down the nations.  The nations are separated into the Sheep and the Goats.  

Finally, the Kingdom of this world becomes the Kingdom of our Lord and his Messiah.

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The mystery of God will be accomplished when the seventh angel begins to sound his trumpet as the seventh seal is opened.

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Revelation 10:7

But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”  (NIV)

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. (KJV)

The mystery of God will be accomplished when the seventh angel begins to sound his trumpet.  This mystery is also mentioned in connection to the last trumpet in 1Cor 15:51-52.  This mystery is that we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in the twinkling of an eye when the seventh angel begins to sound his trumpet.

1Cor 15:51-52

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

When the Seventh angel sounds his trumpet, Christ has opened the last seal on the scroll which is part of the book of life containing the names of the Children of God.  It is time for the Children of God to be revealed.  When the trumpet sounds, poof, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, the first resurrection and the rapture take place.

Rom 8:18-19

I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.  For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

Creation is waiting in eager expectation for the Children of God to be revealed.  This will happen when the Lamb opens the last seal on the Scroll which is part of the Book of Life.  At that moment, the Children of God will be redeemed from the Earth but not before those who are asleep in Christ are raised.

Rev 11:15-18

The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying: “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

When the seventh angel sounds his trumpet, the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah and he will reign for ever and ever.  The mystery of God is accomplished (Rev 10:7) and the sons and daughters of God are revealed.  The Book of Life, the little scroll has been opened and those who inherit eternal life as the Children of God are raptured or resurrected to be with Jesus and will remain with him forever. 

But there is more to the seventh trumpet; the Nations were angry for the time of God’s wrath has come.  The seventh trumpet is the third woe and it contains the seven bowls of God’s wrath which are for the whole Earth (not just a third of the Earth as was the case with the trumpets).  The seventh trumpet is the time when God pours out his wrath on the nations who have been left behind after the Church has been removed and the 144000 Jews Sealed.

The dead outside of Christ are not resurrected for judgment until after the Millennium.

Rev 6:12-17

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,  and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.  The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.  They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their  wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” (NIV)

The sixth seal involves an earthquake, signs in the sky, stars falling to earth and the heavens receding like a scroll being rolled up.  The kings of the Earth, princes, general, the rich and mighty and everybody tried to hide form what was about to happen in the next seal.  For the time of God’s wrath has come.  God’s wrath will not be poured out until the Church is removed and the 144000 are sealed.  (1Thes 5:9)  This is exactly what happens next and then the seventh seal is mentioned.

Rev 7:1-4  &  9-14

144000 Sealed from Israel

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.  Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:  “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

A Great Multitude appear in Heaven

After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.  And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!” Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?” I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (NIV)

After the sixth seal, but before the seventh seal is mentioned, the 144000 from all the tribes of Israel and the Great Multitude from every nation, tribe, people and language are described.  Finally the seventh seal is mentioned, almost in passing.   When it was opened, there was ‘silence in heaven for half an hour’. 

The sealing of the 144000 and the rapture of the Great multitude could well be what the seventh seal is all about as the names on the little scroll are not known until the seventh seal is opened.  When the scroll is opened the rapture and the first resurrection take place.

Rev 8:1

When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. (NIV)

This verse really belongs to chapter 7. It follows the discourse on the Great multitude and the 144000.   As nothing else is said about the seventh seal, perhaps the sealing of the 144000 and the rapture of the great multitude are what the seventh seal is about.  They are not just placed  ‘in between’  the sixth and the seventh seal.

The seventh seal therefore is intimately liked to the rapture and the first resurrection as well as God’s wrath.  This is also what the seventh trumpet is about.  The seventh seal and the seventh trumpet are, therefore, coincident with one another.

This begs the question: “What about the other trumpets, are they coincident with the respective seal.

The seven bowls of God’s wrath are part of the seventh trumpet and are poured out after the Church has been raptured.

http://www.truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/References/last_trumpet.htm

If the Seventh Seal is concurrent with the Seventh Trumpet then the rapture coincides with both.

What happens when the seventh seal is opened?

What happens when the seventh seal is opened?

The great multitude appear in heaven when the seventh seal is opened. This corresponds to the rapture and the first resurrection.

The rapture and the first resurrection are also said to take place at the Last Trumpet.

This can easily be reconciled if the Seventh Seal and the Seventh trumpet are coincident.

The Seventh Trumpet also brings with it the Seven Bowls of God’s wrath or what is known as the third woe.

The Wrath of the Lamb follows the opening of the 6th seal.  This could refer to the Seven of Trumpets but could also refer to just the last trumpet with the seven bowls of God’s wrath.

If it is referring to just the Last trumpet, then the first six trumpets would precede the seventh seal and could possibly align with the first six seals.

If the seals and the trumpets are synchronized, S1-T1, S2-T2, S3-T3, S4-T4, S5-T5, S6-T6, S7-T7, this would mean that an angel blows a trumpet every time Christ opens a seal.  It would also mean that when Christ opens the last seal, the Children of God are revealed and the rapture and the first resurrection take place (ie Christ returns to redeem the Church).  It also means that for those of us who are watching, we can have a rough idea about where Jesus is up to.

 

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

If the seventh seal coincides with the seventh trumpet, maybe the the other seals coincide with their respective trumpets

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The seven Bowls are part of the Last Trumpet

The first resurrection and the rapture of the Church at the second coming of Christ occur at the Last Trumpet.  A great multitude will appear in heaven when this happens.

The great multitude appear in heaven after the sixth seal, immediately before the seventh seal is mentioned.

The seventh seal is mentioned almost in passing immediately after the great multitude appears in heaven.   When the seventh seal is opened, there is rest in heaven for “half an hour”.   Not much else is said about the seventh seal and then Revelation moves on to describe the angels with the seven trumpets.

It is quite likely that the great multitude appearing in heaven is linked to the seventh seal being opened.

The second coming of Christ, therefore, coincides with the sounding of seventh trumpet, the opening of the seventh seal as well as the rapture of the Church and the first resurrection.

If the seventh trumpet coincides with the opening of the seventh seal, then could the other trumpets  coincide with their respective seals?  ie the first trumpet coincides with the first seal, the second trumpet coincides with the second seal, third trumpet – third seal etc.

This would surely be very neat and glorious and would certainly “preach well“, but is it true?

Are there any Bible verses that would confirm or deny that this is true?

Certainly, the events of the first trumpet (hail fire and blood burning up a third of the Earths trees and grass) are not incompatible with the appearance of the Antichrist in the first seal. The events of the second trumpet (a mountain ablaze killing a third of the sea creatures and ships) could be associated with the second seal being opened – war. The events of the third trumpet (a third of the fresh waters of the Earth turned bitter) could be associated with the third seal – famine. The events of the fourth trumpet (a third of the sky is darkened) could be associated with the fourth seal being opened – death.  The events of the fifth trumpet (those with the mark of the beast are tormented for 5 months) could be associated with the fifth seal being opened – martyrs.  The events of the sixth trumpet (a third of mankind is killed by 200,000 mounted troops) could be associated with the events of the sixth seal being opened – signs in the sky.  And the events of the seventh trumpet (the rapture and the first resurrection) probably are associated with the the seventh seal being opened – the great multitude appearing in heaven.

While there do not appear to be any conflicts or major objections to the seals and trumpets being synchronous, other arrangements of the seals and the trumpets are possible.  (see below)

The seven bowls of God’s wrath are part of the seventh trumpet and would also coincide with the seventh seal.

If the seventh seal is coincident with the seventh trumpet (as both are linked to the second coming of Christ), then it is unlikely that the trumpets simply follow the seals.

If the seventh trumpet is coincident with the seventh seal, it is likely that the other trumpets precede the seventh seal.  The trumpets and the seals could, therefore, be synchronous.  ie when a seal is opened, a trumpet is sounded

When Christ opens the seventh seal, the seventh trumpet sounds, the Children of God are revealed, Christ returns to redeem the Church and resurrect dead Christians. There is rest in heaven for half an hour and then Christ returns with an army of believers to strike down the nations as the seven bowls of Gods wrath are poured out.

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

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  • Whenever a seal is opened, an angel announces it with a trumpet.
  • This should serve as a warning to those who know what to look for.
  • Mankind has a chance to repent even after the sixth trumpet is sounded.
  • Once the seventh trumpet is sounded, it is too late to repent, the church will be raptured and the dead believers resurrected.  God will pour out his wrath on the nations who are left behind
  • God’s wrath and the judgment on the Nations follow the sixth seal.
  • The seventh trumpet brings with it God’s wrath.
  • The seven bowls are God’s wrath and are part of the seventh trumpet.
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A more traditional view of the Seals Trumpets and Bowls

  • Here all the trumpets are coincident with the seventh seal and the bowls are coincident with the seventh trumpet.
  • Thus the the seventh seal, the seventh trumpet and the seventh bowl coincide with the end of the age.
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Another view of the seals trumpets and bowls

  • Here the trumpets are spread out but not synchronous with the seals.
  • The seventh trumpet almost coinciding with the seventh seal.
  • The bowls are spread across the last three trumpets.

In non of the above, do the trumpets and bowls follow sequentially after the seventh seal.

http://truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

God’s wrath is poured out on the Nations when the seventh trumpet sounds.

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Revelation 11:15-19

The Seventh Trumpet

15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

16And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying: “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.

18The nations were angry, and your wrath has come.

The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

19Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.

From here we can see that the seventh trumpet (which is also the last trumpet) signifies the end of the age.  The kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of our Lord and his Messiah and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The nations were angry for now had come the time for judging the nations on earth who are alive.  (The dead outside of Christ are not resurrected until after the millennium at the Great White throne – this is the second resurrection or the pagan resurrection)

The judgment of the nations occurs at the Battle of Armageddon which is also part of the seventh trumpet.

The seventh trumpet is also the time when the believers dead and alive will be rewarded for the things that they have done in the body.

The last trumpet is of course the time when Christ returns and the time when the rapture and the first resurrection take place.

The seventh trumpet must span a period of time  (possibly 75 days = 1335-1260) but the rapture occurs instantaneously, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, as soon as the trumpet sounds.

The seventh seal and the seventh trumpet appear to be synchronous or co-incident events as they are both connected to the rapture, the first resurrection and the second coming of Christ. They both seem to herald the end of the age.

http://truthinlove.com/References/TheRapture.html